Ok, here is a deal:

Everybody have main char, nothing unusuall

We will make also 'group only' char. We will playing them only when full group will be online in one time. Everybody who is playing know how hard is to play together durning lvling, because somebody made this quest earlier, somebody is higher, somebody is lower. So this idea will resolve that problem.

Max group in AoC = 6
We need 4 more We will start when 6ppl will join this project, maybe never, maybe tomorow.

Every player starting in some kind of training prologe, after that he appears in Tortuga at lvl 5. So those who wanna join this project should make a proper class to fit group and wait in Tortuga at lvl 5.

Group need Tank, Healer and dps group, nothing new.
1. 'Priest of Mitra' should be a healer. - It seems that class was designed for healing.
2. 'Guardian' should be a Tank. - It seems that class was designed for tanking.
- DPS group: One hidden unit, one plate unit, two ranged units.
3. Hidden - 'Assassin'. - For special missions.
4. Plate - 'Conqueror'. - For off-tanking if necessary and party buffs.
5. Ranged caster - 'Tempest of Set' - For off-healing if necessary.
6. Ranged physical - 'Ranger' - For pulling, traping and hidden units detection.

Ok. I'll make a healer this time, Arche will appear in Tortuga today. Aha, to be honest it's Malachi's idea.

1. HEALER - priest - Priest of Mitra - Arche

2. TANK - soldier - Guardian - xxxxxx

3. HIDDEN - rogue - Assasin - xxxxxx

4. PLATE - soldier - Conqueror - xxxxxx

5. CASTER - priest - Tempest of Set - xxxxxx

6. RANGED - rogue - Ranger - xxxxxx


Let's talk ^^

I will be trying AoC very soon. Leave a spot for me. Prolly ranged or caster DPS. NOT HEALER.

I don't think we need that straight class limitations.

Just put up with various roles. For example I'm gonna make a necro - ranged dps. The same role can be fulfilled by a ranger, demonologist, ToS (which is actually a prmary healer), and so on.

If you want to do a healer, we need a tank now.

Glad you answer Niki. I was thinking about you as Ranger in that group. My main is ranger. You know, ranger don't have to affraid of anyone^^

Yes i made Arche, he is lvl 5 now and waiting for rest of group.

Ok, so who you wish to replace by your Necro Malachi?

Caster ranged dps. Niknak can also be a caster and we'll have 2 caster dps, not really worse than a caster+ranger. I think a demo/necro combo would do nice. Or if you prefer ranger, Niknak, then so be it.

If you, Gardhar, are going to be a healer then we still need a tank. Not necessarily a Guardian, a Conqueror or Dark Templar can handle this too.

Remember, we're not forming a raid group here, this will be probably done with our mains. It's just a group for questing and instancing together while leveling, so it doesn't really have to bew a proper S.E.A.L commando

if doing someting do it good, or don't

ok, templar can be, but conqueror not, and still guardian will be best

Ofc, more important for us should be our mains, because they will grow in power faster, and they will reach top lvl first. So i won't force anybody to play what he don't like as main char. But group should work as a team and we need guardian.

For me personally i wish to see good ranger beside my Talvniss in time of need than other class even healer. I was always a Bowmaster with ambition on archer group leader (with some experiance even^^) and that will never change. But for group, for mayority and common godness i can be a healer. S.E.A.L. archer team raids are only for sick bastards like me, hehe. But i will find them.

so dps for life make something for group finaly

I have a main DT, which is more like a tank/support hybrid (underpowered atm, too).

Anyway, I see NO fun in and have NO time in game for playing a class I don't want to. I will have barely enough time for this game to maintain 2 characters, and these will be a Dark Templar and a Necro.

And for another matter, I think that the ToS you wanted as a dps isn't going to fulfill that role better than dedicated dps when only a little balance is introduced. It's a prmary healer after all.

And necros at certain level, when they get ranged, AoE-casting minions, can allready compete with them.

Oh yeah, but we can still take a ToS as another healer and dps. The 'S.E.A.L' kind of group would more likely look something like that:

1. Tank - soldier - Guardian
2. Healer - priest - Priest of Mitra
3. Healer / offtank - priest - Bear Shaman
4. Healer / off-dps - priest - Temperst of Set
5. DPS - mage - Necromancer
6. DPS - mage - Demonologist

[Edit:] Oh wait, it isn't really a S.E.A.L. kind of group. More like a Battlecruiser kind ^^

- in this case it's a caster-heavy group, which makes them all benefit from group caster buffs like mana regeneration, damage bonuses etc. Also focuses on AoE damage.

[Edit:] Deleted the alternate, non-caster dps setup, as I'm not certain about it. I'm pretty sure a Conqueror could be worth taking then, as he seems to have a bunch of non-caster group buffs at his disposal.

Tried it for the first time yesterday. First impressions:

Gfx a bit jumpy - maybe need to upgrade my gfx card. Also got quite a few DCs. It is after all just a new game so will wait to see if it gets better on the connection issues.

I like the day (group)/night (solo) idea. Thumbs up there.

I personally didn't get set about by anyone else on the PvP side but there was sooo many people complaining about teams of 4 or 5 on the first island (Whitesands Island or whatever it's called) just going around ganking. Hope that stops.

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Anyway I have tried out 2 characters so far and got both to level 10 so that I could see the Feat Tree. I will probably try out another 2 classes before deciding which will be my main.

Rabidu (Ranger) and Chaneeh (Dark Templar).

The Ranger is obviously the AoC equivalent of a WoW Hunter and seems ideal for ranged DPS in a group but is a little difficult to solo at the moment as their best attacks are over in like 1 second as the mobs pull towards you for a toe-to-toe fight and then it's the quick change of weapons and hope you haven't also pulled some other ranged mob. Toe-to-toe fighting a melee mob with a ranged attacker doing damage is kind of tough with no aerial weapons active. Does the Ranger get a pet at a higher level? That would help.

The Dark Templar is obviously the AoC equivalent of a WoW Pala (in particular, a Tankadin). I am impressed with how many mobs my DT can take on and the damage they do, especially with the Swipe thing they do which affects many mobs (a melee version of an AoE I suppose). I haven't really been using the Healing-type Combos as yet because a) I haven't really needed them and b) when I have used them, I tend to get killed easier with the negative effects they have. I guess I'll just have to experiment with them.

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Anyway, I have added Durentil, Arche and Malachi to my buddy list on both these characters. Are these right? I await some in-game contact.

My chars on AoC are Xammael and Xephret, NOT Malachi (taken first by somebody ^^)

Gardhar's are: Talvniss, Arche, Veoitil

...but the DT 'healing' combos (you mean Leech Life and A Soul For Our Feast, right) don't have negative effects.

Anyway, forward to see you in-game.

Also, the night - solo / day - multi thing is no more after leaving Tortage. Then it's all multi and a proper day-night cycle.

OK cool.

I have the Leech Life which as you say doesn't have any neg effect but the other Healing Combo I have is Blood for Aid and gives me -5% slash defence and -5% crush defence - didn't help the 2 times I used it as I was getting slashed and crushed at the time. Died both times so haven't used it again.

Pity about the night/day thing - that's one of the things I was liking best about the game. Oh well.

Talvniss is my main, 38lvl atm, no pet. No problem with solo. Yes ofc, there is a problem if you wanna fight 4 same lvl in same time, but 3 are ok.

Trap, first target on pin down, he will be eliminated fast. Second target is stunned on trap, somethimes third one also. If not third one target become skull, in that time you took him to half hp second going on you, you getting hits, but skull going down and you have only one target.

Salvo combo I and II don't share cooldown, i'm useing them both. Pin Down I and II shareing coldown, so i'm useing only higher one.

Hunter is excellent!

I'll add your chars onto my list, we will met
two more lvl and horsy, horsy, horsy

Yes, if you met a group of same guild, run away, don't wait, run away.

@Niknak: I'm pretty sure Blood For Aid isn't a healing combo - it's a move you use on targets with a longer lifespan, as it lowers the ENEMY'S slashing and crushing resistance.

[Edit:] On topic, a group only - char. I just realised something. In Tortage, the "night" part of the story is solo - you have to do this alone.

So I suggest every one of us progresses by himself through Tortage, but not a step further.

Then we all meet, for example in Conarch Village. Everyone is going to be about level 20, and everyone will have the same quests, etc. And also everyone will have enough time to learn the basics of their class and how to play it, so he doesn't have to figure it out while in the team.

Oh, and if you, Niknak would decide to play a Dark Templar, and agree to spec as a tank - we got ourself a basic team:

1. Chaneeh (Niknak) - Tank - Dark Templar
2. Arche (Gardhar) - Healer - Priest of Mitra
3. Xephret (me) - DPS - Necromancer